Kano interview for his new album

Time Out has a Kano interview for his new album. Her from the UK Grime rapper, and find out more about the scene, including Skepta, Dizzee and more

It’s taken more than ten years, but grime has finally spiked to become one of the most exciting musical genres in the world right now. Fiercely independent MCs from London (where the genre originates) are redefining the music industry by trouncing the chart positions of major-label releases with their self-funded freestyles.

Founding father of the scene, Kano, has spent the past five years touring with Gorillaz and appearing in the UK’s Channel 4 drama Top Boy (think The Wire set in London’s Hackney).

In the early noughties, Kane “Kano” Robinson was one of grime’s brightest lights alongside Wiley and Dizzee Rascal. So renowned was he for his clever metaphors and love of sensitive lyrical wordplay that he was basically the Mos Def of Newham. His new album (his fifth), Made in the Manor, is a return to his introspective best: dense with personal lyricism, deft wordplay and the odd emotive, piano-stoked tear-jerker. We caught up with him to find out about coming back to grime.

You’re ten years into the industry now. Isn’t this meant to be the stage where you do a Jay Z and start rapping about all your gold Rolexes?
It’s funny, really. Because Jay Z is keeping it real. He just isn’t keeping it interesting. I don’t want to say things like: “I went to buy two Rolls Royce Phantoms but they only had one left.” I’d rather talk about things that ordinary people can relate to, even if it’s old relationships or stuff that happened in my past. Look at The Beatles: they wrote a lot of their songs when they were rich. How come singers can talk about a previous break-up they went through, but rappers can’t talk about stuff they’ve experienced in the past? It shouldn’t be a problem, really.

Are you proud that grime’s spread so widely?
Yeah, it’s mad! It’s gone from us setting up decks in people’s mums’ kitchens to there being crews in Manchester, Japan, everywhere. Although grime’s still London’s music. Not in a way that we alienate anyone, but I still feel like it belongs to London. I guess that’s how the Bronx feel with hip-hop.

Does grime need US stars such as Kanye and Drake to make it big?

It’s becoming more apparent that America is influenced by us. I can clearly hear a lot of grime influence on Timbaland’s stuff, on some of Drake’s flows. It’s good that they’re starting to admit that. But we don’t need them to say we’re good before people believe we’re good.

What was it like touring with Gorillaz?
It was surreal. We got to tour with some legends: Paul and Mick from The Clash. I got to meet Lou Reed and Bobby Womack before they died, too. I had some good conversations with Bobby. He’s got crazy stories. James Brown used to pick him up in a helicopter, take him up in the air and Bobby would say, “Where we going?” James Brown would say, “Nowhere”. They’d circle for an hour and that’d be it. His life was crazy!

Is there even the tiniest chance that we might see another series of Top Boy?
You know, I feel like it’s just gotten bigger and bigger since it was cancelled. The weirdest thing is that Drake’s started proper supporting it. Every time he tweets or Instagrams about it, I can’t even walk down the street. Every petrol station I go into, people are like: “Top Boy’s coming back! Drake said it was!” and I’m just like: “Erm, I know nothing about this!” To be honest with you, though, I reckon series three will happen at some point.

Made in the Manor is available for download for US$9.99 (Dhs37) from itunes.apple.com.

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